You Can Moderate The Amount of Alcohol You Consume

According to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism and many other independent researchers, there are four times as many problem drinkers as alcoholics in this country. Yet there are very few programs that specifically address the needs of beginning stage problem drinkers as a treatment of alcoholism, while there are literally thousands of programs for the smaller population who are seriously alcohol dependent.

By the time people reach serious stages of alcohol dependency, changing drinking behavior becomes more difficult, and treatment is costly. A support group called Moderation Management, or MM, believes that this situation needs to be remedied in the interest of public health and human kindness with early intervention and harm reduction programs. Alcoholism help in the form of moderation is seen as a less threatening first step, and one that problem drinkers are more likely to attempt before their problems become nearly intractable.

Not surprisingly, approximately 30% of MM members go on to abstinence-based programs. This is consistent with research findings from professional moderation training programs. Outcome studies indicate that professional programs which offer both moderation and abstinence have higher success rates than those that offer abstinence only. Clients tend to self-select the behavior change options which will work best for them. Moderation Management offers a nine-step professionally reviewed program, which provides information about alcohol, moderate drinking guidelines and limits, drink monitoring exercises, goal setting techniques, and self-management strategies.

Problem drinkers can make informed choices about alcohol moderation or abstinence goals based upon educational information and the experiences shared at self-help groups. Harm reduction is a worthwhile goal, especially when the total elimination of harm or risk is not a realistic option. Moderation is a natural part of the process from harmful drinking, whether moderation or abstinence becomes the final goal. Most individuals who are able to maintain total abstinence first attempted to reduce their drinking, unsuccessfully. Moderation programs shorten the process of “discovering” if moderation is a workable solution by providing concrete guidelines about the limits of moderate alcohol consumption.

The basic premise of moderation is that behaviors can be changed. MM agrees with many professionals and researchers in the field that alcohol abuse, versus dependence, is a learned behavior (habit) for problem drinkers, and not a disease. This approach recognizes that people who drink too much can suffer from varying degrees of alcohol-related problems, ranging from mild to moderate to severe. A reasonable early option for problem drinkers is alcohol moderation. Seriously dependent drinkers will probably find a return to moderate drinking a great challenge, but the choice to accept that challenge remains theirs.

Moderation is not a good approach for every person with a drinking problem or who wishes to control drinking. No one solution is best for all people with drinking problems. There are many possible solutions available to each individual, and MM is good place to begin to address a drinking problem. If moderation proves to be an ineffective solution, the individual is encouraged to progress to a more radical solution.

If you need help deciding whether alcohol moderation is best for you, I suggest that you contact Marc F. Kern, Ph.D., one of the original founders and a member of the MM Board of Directors of Moderation Management Network, Inc., through his website at http://www.habitdoc.com/, where one-to-one help is offered.

Is this symptomatic of alcoholism?

He drinks a lot. His preference is Vodka, but for some reason yesterday it was brandy. He works a full time nite job and is very well off. How he keeps a job drinking the way he does is beyond me.
On Sundays, he starts out drinking and passes out, then he wakes up and eats, cleans house, and takes care of bills, mows, then starts drinking again until he passes out again. He usually goes to bed around midnite every Sunday nite and sleep until around 4 or 5 on Monday afternoon to get ready for work. He says he sleeps 16 hours plus because he is exhausted from his job. Right now he is still sleeping and he has been in bed since last nite at 11 pm.
Is this a symptom of alcoholism or is he just tired?
He nearly died a couple years ago from drinking. Literally in a coma for a month. He will never get help. He gets no support from his adult children who just dont get it.
I learned….I will never drink, not even a glass of wine with him again. I cant make him stop, but I dont have to partake in his problem and pretend like its not there.

Take it from someone who is in recovery. He needs help but he will get it only after he realizes it for himself.

Is my view tainted or is there alcoholism?

A fellow employee is chronically late, phones in sick on Mondays and avoids contact with others until around noon. I am concerned that she may be hung over and wonder about offering help before she loses her job.

I worry she may be insulted if there is no problem with alcohol and wonder if my view is tainted because I have seen others with alcohol abuse show the same symptoms and behaviours. Do you think she abuses alcohol? What should I do?

refer her to an EAP program if your company has one…or help her to see what others might infer from their observations of her behavior….just ask if she is all right because you are worried about her, letting her know what you see…letting her know that if you can see it so can the bosses.

Alcoholism?

I’m a former alcoholic. I went for 3 months without a drop of alcohol but started drinking again 2 days ago and I am having far too much. How can I cut down without getting withdrawal symptoms?

There is no such thing as a "former" alcoholic. You ARE an alcoholic and you can’t afford to drink. You should check out AA–there’s most likely a meeting somewhere near you many hours of the day and night, 365 days a year. Go. LISTEN. Find a sponsor and work the program.

You will have withdrawal symptoms–as the blood alcohol level decreases in your blood it will trigger physiological changes. You will be with people who will understand and have been there–as well as some who are capable of giving you a guided tour of Hell where they’ve spent a lot of time. You need that kind of support and hopefully you’ll learn from their experiences.

No one needs alcohol to live or live a good life so you will be losing nothing and gaining a lot by deciding each day, and sometimes each minute, right now I shall not drink.

God bless.

My boyfriend has liver disease caused by Hep C & chronic alcoholism - What can I expect? (symptoms, etc)?

He was told about 3 years ago that he had hep C, chirrosis and he is a chronic alcoholic. Dr told him to quit or he would die. He has tried and failed several times ( I know he’s not trying hard enough…. ) . I just want to know what to expect. He is tired all the time, has headaches, and is depressed - Is this part of it? Also I have heard that mood swings are common to this, is that true? I posted a similar question earlier but felt I needed to clarify…. I appriciate any info I can get! Thanks!
I appriciate the replies but I am looking for real answers not opinions on the relationship….. we have been together for many years, it’s not something simple to walk away from…..

Hepatitis C is the inflammation of the liver cells
caused by a virus. Cirrhosis is death of the
liver cells. His disease can be brought on by
the Hep C or his drinking problem. Trying to
quit drinking on his own is extremely difficult.
He needs to go into a detox program at a
hospital in order to do this. The symptoms
he has from trying to stop drinking may be
too much to handle…they can give him drugs
to lessen these symptoms and help him get
through it much better. The symptoms that you
stated are normal. You have to realize that
he is now facing death straight on and he has
to make decisions on what he can do now.
Depression is normal now, because of having
to live with all these hurdles to go over to
save his life. Waking up everyday knowing
that you may die is very hard.
Liver patients are usually in shock when they
first hear they have a terrible disease like this.
The first reaction is unbelief…then it moves
where they try to do something to help
themselves, if it is possible…it leads from
there to either coming to terms with the
disease and trying to fight it or just giving up.
They need alot of support and understanding
at this time. They get mad and they feel
helpless and they feel like someone cheated
them or played a dirty trick on them or they
feel like saying "why me". Others people drink and they don’t have this. Cirrhosis can be caused by many different things.

Your boyfriend doesn’t have a rosey future and
he knows that. He also knows that if he wants
to spend time with the people he loves he has
to do it now. I’m going to explain a few things
to you. Once there is death of the liver
cells it forms scar tissue in the liver…this blocks
the other normal healthy cells from receiving
nourishment and oxygen and causes them to
die also. This is a progressing disease and
the only real option he has now, if he has
cirrhosis, is being evaluated and placed on the
transplant list for an organ. But, first he has
to overcome his addiction of alcohol which
he needs to get care in order to do. A
person has to be free of alcohol for at least
six months before he can be placed on the
list for transplantation.

There are symptoms that may start to develop
with this disease that he may or may not
show signs of. Some of them are listed in
this short article.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/003895.htm

If he wants to stay with his loved ones longer,
than he needs to stop drinking now. He is
causing his liver much more damage faster
and it will lead to a much much earlier death.

Having others around him who truly care about
him, will make whatever course he decides on
alot easier on him. You cannot make decisions
for him, but you can be there to support him
with all he does. Best Wishes

Alcoholic needs booze at 5 am to stop withdrawel symptoms, how would they detox and get to rehab?

Just curious. My sister-in-law Deanna is the mother of 4 kids, two adults, two minors. Her alcoholism has progressed a lot in the past 3 years since I first met her until now. The kids tell me that now she is having to get up and drink early in the morning to manage all of her withdrawel symptoms. I don’t think she is going to get help, but i’m curious about how would someone this advanced detox and get help? Please share a story, or any information that you know about this. Thanks in advance.
just looking for answers to the question, not so much for my sis-in-law as she will never get treatment - intervention won’t work, long family history, gets drunk daily with hubby, kids, and her mother. Yes, I’ve called everyone under the sun about protection for kids - no response. I’ve been told being an alcoholic isn’t a crime by childrens protective services and law enforcement. Just curious if she did get help, the medical side of what would be necessary to get her detoxed and into a rehab. Thanks much for all the answers!

i’m a recovering alcoholic. she needs to go to a detox treatment facility. they will detox her there with medication so she doesn’t get to sick. after about 3 to7 days they will send her to a inhouse treatment facility for about 90 days. hope this helps.

Diabetes? What are the symptoms of type 2? + alcoholism?

In a nutshell, I suspect that I may have type 2 diabetes. I know that the symptoms include frequent urination, thirst, and often tiredness; but I have also been lightheaded lately- to the point of almost passing out. I am an alcoholic, which is bad all around; I know this. BUT, I generally have very good eating habits. I eat square meals every time I eat, to be sure that I get the recommended amount of fruits and veggies, and whole grains, etc. I have also heard that excercise helps control type 2 diabetes, and I excercise 2-4 times a week- pretty intensely. I guess what my question would be is: I’m not sure if the symptoms I’m experiencing are due to the drinking, or to diabetes. Is there a way to distinguish between the two, aside from getting a blood glucose test? I don’t really have the money to see a doc right now, and I basically do every thing else right except for drinking, so I am trying to figure out a way to distinguish between the two.

parkermb is right…you sound like you want to avoid MD.
You need fasting blood tests…get a comprehensive blood test…ask for liver function panel & kidney function.

Diabetics are also sometimes depressed in mood.

As for your alcoholism problem it sounds like you know it, but want to minimize it as a problem so you don’t need to stop… drinking will make diabetes & kidneys worse.

The only way to distinguish between the 2 without going to the MD is to stop drinking & see if symptoms go away.
However I get the feeling that’s not an option for you.

If I may: call Intergroup or AA in your area & go to a group…if you don’t like 1 group try another. Another option is to get into therapy with a professional social worker or psychologist to talk about what keeps you drinkng.

I really wish you the best.

If one is genetically disposed to alcoholism, are there any common related health problems?

If a person is the child of alcoholics and has shown symptoms of alcoholism, are there any other common problems he or she might also be at high risk for (e.g. clinical depression, anxiety, compulsions, physical ailments, particular risks for addictions)?

I recall reading about a study done several years ago that found that families who have a high rate of alcoholism also have a high rate of diabetes.

name three stages of alcoholism, and give me somes symptoms of each stage?


http://www.safemenopausesolutions.com/alcoholism-stages.html. This can explain it better than I can. I have kicked the habit for 5.5 years and have no inclination to start again and am much happier, have more friends, am able to do things that take a sober mind. Also my friends say I am much easier to get along with and they do not have to explain all their jokes.

Alcoholism, recovery, and relationships (What are the symptoms of dry drunk?)?

My boyfriend and I are both in AA, and he is also a recovering crack/heroin addict. We’ve each been clean and sober for several years. We have dated for a year and a half. For the most part, we have been very happy together. He is 45 and has lived at home helping his elderly parents for the last 4 years.

He has decreased his meeting frequency, abandoned his sponsor, and recently injured his back. He was prescribed Vicodin. He has totally shut me out for a week because of the back pain (which ignites serious feelings of fear and abandonment in me—-further irritating him). He hurt his back earlier this year, and went through something similar.

He has been irritable, taking potshots at me, grilling me about private conversations I’ve had with my sponsor. While he has always kept in touch with me when ill, etc., this time he has almost totally stopped communicating with me.

How do I handle this situation? I always arrange my life around him.

it sounds like he is definitley in relapse mode. tell him you are there for him, to help if he wants it. dont nag him, there is nothing you can do other than offer support. If he asks for help, help him. other then that don’t carry his luggage.

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